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Ep4 - The 30-day No Alcohol Challenge and Sleep Hacking with James Swanwick

James Swanwick is an advocate for the 30-day No Alcohol Challenge, and has worked as an ESPN anchor on SportsCenter, is the author of ‘Insider Journalism Secrets’ and co-founder of international agency, Crocmedia, as well as the inventor of “Swannies”. He has been a print or TV journalist for 20 years, writing for newspapers and magazines in the US, UK and Australia. These include Associated Press, Sky Sports, ESPN, WPLJ radio, Sydney Morning Herald, Sydney Daily Telegraph, The Sun, Sky Movie Channel, Q104FM, Loaded magazine, Woman’s Day, The Courier-Mail and much more.

Episode Summary

On a recent episode of my Head First podcast, I talked with an entrepreneur and former sports broadcaster who built two products out of his own sleep and drinking problems: a pair of blue-light-blocking glasses and a structured 30-day alcohol-free program. I want to walk through the neuroscience underneath both of those, because the mechanisms are real and they explain why so many people feel the effects he describes.

Why does alcohol wreck your sleep even when you fall asleep fast?

My guest had a familiar story. He drank at what he called a socially acceptable level, one or two beers most nights, the occasional weekend that got out of hand. By 35 he was carrying extra weight, looking weathered, and tired all the time. He gave himself a 30-day bet to stop. He lost 13 pounds, his skin cleared, he slept better, and he has not had a drink since 2010.

The weight and skin changes are real, and I will not pretend the mechanisms there are as clean as the sleep story. The sleep story is where the neuroscience is solid.

Alcohol is a GABA agonist. GABA is your brain's primary inhibitory neurotransmitter, the system that produces alpha rhythm and turns down cortical arousal. A drink boosts GABA signaling, which is why it feels relaxing and why it helps you drop off. The problem is what happens over the rest of the night. As the alcohol clears, your brain rebounds into a more aroused state, sleep fragments, and slow-wave and REM architecture suffer. You can fall asleep quickly after drinking and still wake up unrefreshed, because the falling-asleep part and the staying-asleep-well part run on different machinery.

If you want the full picture of what good sleep architecture actually requires, I covered it in Biohacking Sleep.

Why does the first week without alcohol feel worse?

My guest reports that most people in his program hit a rough patch for the first 7 to 10 days. Irritability, headaches, worse sleep, a sense that the whole thing is backfiring. Then around day 7 to 10 it flips, and people wake up feeling good.

That timeline tracks a GABA mechanism, not a willpower failure. When you drink regularly, your brain adapts to the constant external GABA boost by down-regulating its own GABA tone. Pull the alcohol away and you are left with a brain that has, in effect, forgotten how to make enough of its own inhibition. The result is over-arousal: a wired, jittery, hard-to-sleep state. Rebuilding the GABAergic system takes time. For a moderate drinker, a week or two starts to restore it. For someone with years of heavy daily drinking, the recovery can take far longer, and some people stay under-regulated for years after their last drink. That is the same circuit, just stretched across a longer recovery curve.

This is the active mechanism behind the "tired and wired" feeling many people describe in early sobriety. The over-arousal is a glutamate and GABA imbalance, and it settles as your own inhibitory system comes back online.

What helps you get through the alcohol-withdrawal week?

A few simple supports target the same circuits.

L-theanine. This is the amino acid found in tea leaves, and it nudges GABA activity along with promoting alpha rhythm. Drinking tea provides some, and L-theanine capsules are cheap and widely available. For someone who is not unusually sensitive to GABAergic compounds, it is a low-risk way to give the inhibitory system a little outside help while it rebuilds. I would put this in the clinical-observation-plus-extrapolation category rather than the settled-trial category, but the mechanism is sound.

Vitamin C. It is a water-soluble antioxidant, so excess is excreted rather than stored, and it supports tissue under the oxidative load of withdrawal. Useful as a general support.

Water. Unglamorous and effective. Steady hydration helps you feel better through the early adjustment. Add lemon or lime if plain water bores you.

If you want to understand the alpha-GABA relationship in more depth, I wrote about it in Decoding Alpha Waves. And for the broader question of how to retool a habit at the circuit level, see Biohacking Bad Habits.

How does a structured 30-day program actually change behavior?

My guest runs his alcohol-free month as a daily-email program with a private member group. Each day delivers a short video with one concrete task: what to do when the craving hits, what to say when friends push a drink on you, how to route around the liquor aisle at the store.

The design is doing two things your brain responds to. First, it externalizes self-control. You are not relying entirely on in-the-moment prefrontal willpower, which is exactly the resource that depletes when you are tired and stressed. You are pre-loading decisions and environmental adjustments so the hard choice is already made. Second, the group adds accountability and social reinforcement, which recruits reward and social circuitry to support the new pattern instead of the old one.

This is consistent with what works for habit change generally. The brain updates behavior through repetition and changed cues, not through willpower bursts. I covered the mechanics in New Year, New Habits and the broader action problem in Biohacking Procrastination.

Do blue-light-blocking glasses really help you sleep?

The second product came out of the same self-experiment instinct. My guest was sleeping his seven or eight hours but waking up foggy. He read about blue light suppressing melatonin, pulled an old pair of yellow ski goggles out of a closet, wore them while watching TV at night, and started getting sleepy on schedule and waking up refreshed. The ugly goggles eventually became a stylish product.

The mechanism is well-established. Short-wavelength blue light, in the roughly 460 to 480 nanometer range, hits melanopsin-containing retinal ganglion cells. These cells project to the suprachiasmatic nucleus, your master circadian clock, and signal "daytime." That signal suppresses melatonin release from the pineal gland. Phones, laptops, and TVs emit plenty of this wavelength, so evening screen use pushes your clock later and delays the melatonin rise you need to feel sleepy.

Filtering blue light in the hours before bed removes that suppression and lets melatonin climb on a more natural schedule. Where I would set expectations carefully: this mostly affects sleep onset and circadian timing. The melatonin rhythm governs when you get sleepy, not primarily whether you stay in deep sleep all night. My guest's customers report deeper sleep too, and earlier onset can mean more total sleep, but the cleanest, best-supported claim is on timing and onset rather than on sleep depth per se.

A cheaper version of the same intervention: dim your lights, get screens out of the bedroom, and stop scrolling in bed. For the full morning-and-evening circadian routine, see Biohacking Your Morning.

The bottom line

The two interventions in this episode share an honest logic. Cutting alcohol lets your own GABA system rebuild, which is why the first week feels rough and the second week feels good. Blocking evening blue light stops melatonin suppression so your circadian clock can time sleep correctly. If you want to test either one, the protocol is simple: try 30 days without alcohol and expect the turn around day 7 to 10, and put screens away or filter blue light for the two hours before bed. Track how you feel in the morning, since morning clarity is the readout that tells you whether the change is working.

Full Transcript
And welcome to another episode of the Head First with Dr. Hill podcast. Today, our guest is James Swanwick, who is an Australian-American entrepreneur, former SportsCenter anchor on ESPN, and host of The James Swanwick Show, which actually I was on a couple weeks ago. He is the creator of the 30-Day No Alcohol Challenge, which helps you reduce your quick alcohol, and the 47-Day Habit Hacker. This is how everyday people can achieve more in 47 days than they ever thought possible. He's also the creator of Blue Blocking Glasses Swannies, which I have a pair on right now, which help avoid your brain getting pushed into staying up all night. And he'll probably tell us a little bit more about that. But welcome to the show, James. Dr. Hill, great to have me here. Thank you. Thanks for having me. So we're sitting around with our fashionable Swannies. Yeah. I, of course, know some of the science, but if you could maybe unpack for us why you created these things. What's the point? Yeah, well, I mean, I always slept seven or eight hours a night, but I would sometimes wake up feeling a little bit tired and foggy, and I wasn't sure why, given that I was sleeping what, you know, National Sleep Organization says is the right number of hours. So I started Googling it, and I realized that the blue light that's emitted from electrical devices, like from your cell phone, your TV screen, your laptop computer, So it's emitting this blue light, and the blue light hitting your eyes and your brain suppresses your melatonin production. Melatonin obviously helps you sleep. And I thought, wow, you know, here I am. I'm an entrepreneur. I'm working late at night on the computer. I'm checking my Instagram and Facebook on my cell phone as I'm lying in bed before I go to sleep. This is probably what's happening. So I actually pulled out an old pair of ski goggles from my cupboard. It was like these yellow tinted ski goggles. And I put them on as I watched reruns of the TV series Mad Men for about a week. Okay, all right. And I kept getting sleepy during the show. And I realized that my sleep was really, really good. And I woke up feeling refreshed. And I go, wow, this technology really works. The problem was is that it was a very ugly, unstylish pair of ski goggles. Yeah, exactly. And I wanted to go out at nighttime, socialize, have dinner with friends. So I thought, how can I put the technology into a stylish frame so I can go out in Hollywood on LA, socialize with friends and still look cool, but get the benefits of blocking that dangerous blue light and helping me sleep. Long story short, I got a few prototypes together and I came up with what we're wearing now, which is Swanee's blue light blocking glasses. That's wonderful. So you've been using them for how long? How long have they been a... We launched them November 2015 on Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving. And yeah, it's been amazing. Lots of people, well, hundreds of people across the country and the world now have been using these glasses and saying that their sleep has improved dramatically, not just increasing the number of hours, but just the quality of their sleep. Sure. Now, do you think that would be more of an onset improvement? I mean, from my perspective, the thing that's suppressed when you have blue light is melatonin, as you say, melatonin production, but that's really more about onset versus staying asleep. Is that what you're hearing from your customers who are using the Swanee? Yeah. If you put these glasses on at a time when you ordinarily would be staring at your screen you will certainly speed up the time that takes for you to get sleepy and fall asleep and then during the night the amount of time that you have in that REM sleep is certainly longer because here's the thing even if you if you're not wearing glasses and you're looking at your computer screen and you fall asleep quickly it's still gonna take your body as I understand it 90 minutes or so to create that melatonin that that level of melatonin that you need to be able to get into that deep REM sleep so all the reports back we've got from people who've got the glasses have been sleeping more sleeping more deeply and waking up feeling more refreshed that sounds great now the only the only sort of complaint I have is I wear prescription glasses right any plans to like partner with Warby Parker or something so we can get swanies with the Warby Parker frames or something? Well, we do have fit overs at the moment. So we can get you a pair of fit overs. They are available for people with prescription. And we've been looking into trying to find a scalable way to have the lenses done for people with prescription. So that's coming 2017. Okay. Well, I'll keep my eyes open for that, so to speak. So that's great. All right. Let's switch gears a little bit. So you and I have both worked in areas of drug and alcohol abuse for a while. And I don't know a lot about your challenge, your 30-day, but it reminds me of these other, you know, we used to participate in something called Dryuary when I was working for a company called Alternatives Addiction Treatment. And in Dryuary, we challenged people to do 30 days without any alcohol. It's actually not a big deal for me. I don't really drink alcohol, so I didn't really notice. But some of our interns working there, it was life-changing. I mean, a lot of the interns are students, you know, UCLA and USC students. And the idea of stopping drinking for a sophomore or junior in college for 30 days when the quarter first starts was a little mind-blowing. They didn't have the lifestyle sort of accommodation ready to go. Tell me about your 30-day challenge. Well, look, I grew up in Australia. I'm Australian-American, and it's a pretty big drinking culture there. Is it? Yeah, it is huge. It's, you know, 18th birthday. You get drunk until you vomit. You know, 21st birthday party. And then there's lots of sports and guys having Sunday barbecues on the afternoons. And alcohol is just part of the society there. It's very much encouraged. It's celebrated. It's kind of like, yeah, have a drink, have a drink. Sure. So I wouldn't say I drank heavily, but I just drank what I considered to be a socially acceptable level when I grew up in Australia. Now, that means I probably would have one or two beers each night maybe. Maybe I'd have a glass of wine as I got into my late 20s or 30s. Some weekends I'd get drunk and have fun. I'd watch the football on a Sunday afternoon. Sure. couple of times i did some crazy stuff but i was certainly not an alcoholic it was just i was just what i considered a solid social drinker here's the problem though i got to about 35 and i'd put on a few pounds okay i started to look a bit weathered in the face and i got i realized that i was just tired all the time yeah and i remember i woke up um in austin texas i was uh it was 2010 i'd been at the south by southwest festival and i had a hangover i'd only had two uh bombay sapphire gin and tonics the night before but that was enough for me to wake up and just go oh geez i got a headache i feel ordinary yeah and i went to an ihop which is like an international house of pancakes right next door to the hotel for a hangover breakfast okay and i'm sitting in this ihop and i'm looking at these people eating all you can eat um pancakes with maple syrup and i'm sitting in this hotel room outside of austin i'm hung over i'm tired and i'm like enough james enough it's time to take a break so i just said to myself i'm going to see if i can go 30 days without drinking just to see what happens just to to flush these toxins out of my system and just see how i feel it was just a personal bet with myself and so that's what i did i got to 30 days and i lost 13 pounds in 30 days my skin was better i was more productive i slept better the quality of my relationships i I know were noticeably better after 30 days. And then I went, I wonder if I can do 40 days. And I went, I wonder if I can do 50 days. And then I got to 50, then I got to 60. And I haven't drunk since. It's been since 2010 since I last had a drop of alcohol. The pros of not drinking far outweigh any temporary, illusionary pleasure that I ever got from drinking. Let me ask you, if you're drinking mostly daily, before that, when you stopped, when you initially did your 30 days, Was there an initial period of time where falling asleep was actually harder before you get out of your system? Yeah, yeah. And for me, the first week, and for a lot of people who take my 30-day no alcohol challenge program, it's about 7 to 10 days. You have a little bit of irritability is what I call it. Because your body's so used to getting this drug, and all of a sudden you're depriving it of the drug. All of a sudden you start to like, some people get headaches, some people, like I said, are irritable. The sleep is compromised a little bit. You can almost feel like, oh, man, this is not working. But about seven to ten days, which is when the toxins finally leave your body and your body started to adjust, all of a sudden you wake up and just go, wow, now I feel amazing. I guess it's just like trying to wean like a heroin addict off heroin. It's like for the first amount of time, you do a cold turkey, you've got the shakes, you're sweating, your body's craving it. So, yeah, a lot of people who do it say the first seven to ten days, you're irritable, but after that, you're off to the races. And I wonder if L-theanine would affect the initial early detox period because alcohol, most of the reason why we get tolerant to it, is because of the strong GABA effects. GABA is a neurotransmitter. It makes alpha waves. Sort of the over-arousal that happens when you withdraw from alcohol, if you're tolerant to it, is because the body has to some extent forgotten how to make the neurotransmitter GABA. And it takes several weeks for it to start really rebuilding its GABAergic system, if you will. And it doesn't even do it that well. if you're a chronic drinker, not at the level you were describing, but an alcoholic level of, you know, lots of drinking every day for many months or years, those folks will often take many years, even after being completely sober, and still not be able to sort of calm their brain down, go to sleep at will. This sort of acquired pattern, that's a GABAergic or GABA phenomena. Yeah. I wonder if the initial withdrawal in the first week of this 30-day challenge could be helped with other GABAergics. Yeah. What are some of the other ones? I mean, I always tell people take a bunch of vitamin C because vitamin C helps you a lot when you're going through withdrawal. Huge. It's an adaptogen and it also is water-soluble. So you can't overdo vitamin C. Any extra vitamin C you take, it's peed out. And it helps all kinds of tissues. It's a really pretty profound antioxidant as well. The sort of most common GABAergic is L-theanine, right? Which is found in tea leaves. So people may find that drinking tea supports their GABA. They can also go to the drugstore, Amazon, or wherever, and buy, it's really cheap, L-Thinian capsules off the internet. It's a fairly innocuous substance if you aren't super sensitive to GABAergic. Yeah, peppermint tea, I mean, any kind of tea, I think, is going to be soothing and calm you down a little bit. A lot of people, I know, like I said, vitamin C has always been the easy fix. Not the easy fix, but it helps people with their withdrawals. The other thing is it's so simple. I don't know. It's not so medical, but take a bunch of water. Like just keep drinking water. Just flush the system out. Water, water, water. And put a little bit of lime or lemon in there to make it a little bit more palatable if you like. Sure, sure. And just drink it by the gallon. And water solves a lot of things, I tell you. Yeah, I totally agree. So do people do this 30-day challenge on their own? Is it facilitated? Is it supported? Is there a website? Yeah, so it's an online program. It's at 30daynoalcoholchallenge.com. And people say, right, I want to quit for 30 days. So they sign up. Every day for each of those 30 days, I'm going to send you a video via an email. And in day one, it's going to say, day one, welcome to the 30 Day No Alcohol Challenge. Here's what I want you to do today when you really want to drink. Day two, here's some mantras you can say to yourself. Day three, here's what you say when friends are pressuring you to have a drink. Go on, just have a drink. Day four, here's how you should walk around the supermarket so you avoid the liquor section. Day 5, etc, etc, etc That's great So I'm giving 30 tips Throughout each day And most importantly it's accountability So every day 6am in your inbox Comes this little video from me And it just keeps you on track You also go into a closed Facebook group of members So people all around the world Who are also doing their challenge Or who've completed their challenge Are in there So you can go in there and post For example, wow I really want a drink today This kind of sucks